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Sunday, February 4, 2018

Conversations about Political Correctness in film hinders art and creativity

I'd like to gauge people's feelings about political correctness in modern cinema. Personally, I get slightly exasperated when the way a person reads a film is based solely around notions of political correctness. I feel that the desire to sanitize cinema to the extent that no one at all gets offended is doomed to leave us with the worst kind of bland, empty cinema that is devoid of any kind of reality. Sadly, we don't live in a shiny Utopia where everyone holds hands and skips down the street in perfect harmony and portraying that on the silver screen wouldn't magically make it so. Films shouldn't be specifically designed to cater for people with fragile sensibilities. They should in part, hold up a mirror to the world we live in and get us to examine our own flaws and ponder our own prejudices. What does everyone else think?
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Jillian Joyce
Jillian Joyce What films are pc? Most that come out Hollywood are reactionary as they come
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Bill  Sweet
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Max Calder
Max Calder Exactly, how?
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Andrew Hanson
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith Dude my point exactly
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Max Calder
Max Calder What point?
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Bill  Sweet
Bill Sweet Wait, people are offended by Zootopia?
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Andrew Hanson
Andrew Hanson I'm not offended by zootopia lol it's just a very PC movie
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James P Lucarelli
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Max Calder
Max Calder Reactionary of the people paying the script and story writers?
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Connor Ripley
Connor Ripley I don't think that political correctness equals sanitisation. I think that it adds depth, because it expands the number of directions from which you can approach the same subject. It doesn't make a subject taboo, it encourages directors to be MORE broad minded, if anything.
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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins The problem with political correctness is that it is a contrived political agenda masquerading as entertainment.
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Michael Rovin
Michael Rovin That’s charming, but political correctness leads to the insipid insertion of its ideas for the sake of it, rather than to serve the story.

For instance, not all places on earth have a perfect balance of different races. Sometimes it’s just one race.
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook Just curious - have we discussed one Incredibly Strange Film on this thread? Or is it just been the usual Us vs. Them debate you can get anywhere?
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Timothy Dorian
Timothy Dorian Every piece of art (novels, films, songs) has a perspective, and politics are braided in that perspective, whether the creator of the art intended this or not -- usually as assumptions as to how the world works. These assumptions can be challenged. And an artist's explicit points can be challenged, too. If one viewer is fairly conservative, and the art piece's assumptions or explicit statements fit with that world-view, and another viewer challenges those, then the first viewer may complain that the second viewer is "just being PC."
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Vincent McCarthy
Vincent McCarthy I see this more in telly over the years than film. Especially when they sneak modern beliefs into older historical bits that were not the sign of the times.
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Rob Rooney
Rob Rooney Eeyup. I reckon...
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Buck TurgidsonGen
Buck TurgidsonGen Well, tell that to Hollywood? And what do you think countries other than the USA think of American Sniper (2014), The 15:17 to Paris (2018) but then Clint makes Sully (2016)? Have you read the criteria for which a movie gets approval to show in mainland China?
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Cara France
Cara France Political correctness in modern films? Have I missed something?
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Chris Twyford
Chris Twyford "..Political correctness in modern films? Have I missed something?..." YES.
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith When Anthony Cumia's forebearers and mine came over from Italy in the early part of the 20th century, they were not considered white. Maybe he should think about that fact a little bit.
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Joe Fowler
Joe Fowler He doesn't need to think when he can just SHOUT REALLY LOUDLY.
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Cara France
Cara France If you mean people in films aren't being racist and sexiest anymore then surely that's a good thing. I think film now is more exciting and varied than it has ever been. Maybe you're watching the wrong movies?
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Cara France
Cara France I want to know what films you are talking about!!
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Jonathan Shoesmith
Jonathan Shoesmith Imagine pitching Holy Mountain or something now 'so yeah we want to like smash loads of figures of Jesus up and blow up a load of toads'

"you mean to say there isn't a bong smoking montage or any autotune music in it??'


"theres a guy sitting inside a dead cow"
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook Again, though, are you talking Hollywood films or indie films?
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Connor Ripley
Connor Ripley It seems that there is more than one way that people define the term: Politically Correct.

Some people see it as prohibitive and stifling, whereas others see it as a way to expand creative resources and add depth.
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane I’m interested to know what sorts of cinema this political correctness is supposedly influencing? I just don’t see it. If it’s mainstream, like in the Star Wars example cited numerous times above. Well yawn. Not relevant to the interests of this group. Also. Why do people get so upset when a mainstream film starts to redress some of the massive historical imbalance by giving a bit of the story to (shock) people who aren’t white men? If it’s more arthouse/independent. Then I don’t agree at all. Films aren’t getting made because of money, not some pc agenda. John Waters can’t get a film financed. And he’s John Waters. We’ve got great examples of films pushing the envelope from the last few years; tangerine, greasy strangler. Yes a new Buffalo 66 hasn’t come out. Or a new last tango in Paris. But they exist already! Bring on non-white/trans/queer/women’s voices in cinema!
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith Haha Sian this is a better version of what I just wrote.
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Philip Bale
Philip Bale 'Not relevant to the interests of this group.' What a fascistic statement.
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane You are completely right Philip Bale I hear fascists saying that all the time! 😂
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Philip Bale
Philip Bale No one can be the final arbiter of aesthetic taste. If you think you are, you are only fooling yourself :)
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Philip Bale , stop being "a whiny lil bitch"

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Philip Bale
Philip Bale You obviously don't understand what has been said Steve me old china.
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Philip Bale , its ok, I GET YOU.

<3 you have a SAFE SPACE HERE! <3
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Philip Bale
Philip Bale That's for millennials Steve. My generation didn't have or need such things. You are all so oversensitive to the slightest hint of criticism, even when it isn't directed at you. lol
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith I can't tell if Philip Bale's comment is satire or not
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Philip. on a serious note, I find its the older "non millennials" who are the most sensitive and indeed, FEARFUL, as the world they imagined they would have forever changes inexorably before their eyes...
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith Yeah but that's not even Love's best album
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Philip Bale
Philip Bale No, it is unfortunately just the same, except people are upset about the wrong things. No one seems to care about war and atrocities carried out by their governments, only ensuring a work of art meets with it's quota of over privileged, middle class actors who may (or may not have) had disadvantaged ancestors.
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Richard Pickering
Richard Pickering Siân Macfarlane It's most noticeable (to me at least) in mainstream Hollywood cinema, not that I actually watch much of that, and maybe it's because of that very fact that it jumps out at me when I do... I don't think that you get to decide what is and...See More
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane Richard Pickering Star Wars is relevant here???? That’s what I’m picking up on, more from the above comments than your original post, as that is what is being cited. I just find that the discussion of mainstream in this context a bit redundant. I’m not...See MoreManage
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane I’d recommend the Bret Easton Ellis podcast for an insiders perspective on the state of play and funding in Hollywood, he talks to lots of filmmakers about it (though he a hasn’t done a new one for a while). I would say that’s the cause of the malaise ...See More
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane And finally, to be clear; I wasn’t saying that your original post wasn’t relevant to this group, but that a discussion of these themes in the context of Star Wars wasn’t relevant, in relation to above posts. Enjoy your evening. I’m currently watching Hard to be a God. Which I should get back to.
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Richard Pickering
Richard Pickering No worries, thanks for clarifying. I haven't followed 'Star Wars' since 'Return of the Jedi', so I really can't comment on the latest ones. I did refer to 'Dallas Buyers Club' and 'Mad Max: Fury Road' in other posts but there's now hundreds of comments...See MoreManage
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane Yeah I actually think he probably aligns with your perspective more than me! He talks about ‘snowflake’ culture a lot.
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane Not that you used that phrase...
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Richard Pickering
Richard Pickering Yeah, I'm not particularly keen on that term...
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Jurgen Boel
Jurgen Boel `Bring on non-white/trans/queer/women’s voices in cinema!` That cinema has always existed, maybe not in mainstream Hollywood movies but no-one forces you to watch those. And off course big budget movies will go for the most common denominator but those will change when they notice there is money to made by catering to "minority" groups.
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Siân Macfarlane
Siân Macfarlane Jurgen Boel I’m not saying it doesn’t exist. The rest of my comments make that quite clear
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Jurgen Boel
Jurgen Boel I stand corrected but i don`t quite get what you are trying to say. Do you want to bring on non-white/trans/queer/women’s voices in MAINSTREAM cinema? If the story is well written and the actors can play the part, I`d say bring it on.
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith Political correctness does not exist in modern cinema because there's no money in it. Every step Hollywood has made towards progressivism hasn't happened until it was profitable, or until it was UNprofitable not to take that step.
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Dennis Zonn
Dennis Zonn I think you expressed it very well Mr. Pickering.
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Jed Smith
Jed Smith People who complain about political correctness are so oversensitive! I remember the good old days when you could make fun of conservatives, homophobes, racists, misogynists, Libertarians, greedy assholes, and gun nuts without worrying about their feelings. What a bunch of snowflakes!
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook One thing people have said is that you couldn't make a movie like "Blazing Saddles" today. Maybe true, but would a movie like "Black Panther" have been made back then? Hell, Bruce Lee couldn't even get the starring role in "Kung Fu" because TV execs di...See More
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Max Calder
Max Calder Zeitgeist.
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John Firth
John Firth Bruce Lee pretty much developed Kung Fu too, for himself. Warners stole the idea and gave it to the clearly white David Carradine, a man with, at the time, no martial arts experience.
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Max Calder
Max Calder Evolution.
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Kyle Allen Willey
Kyle Allen Willey I don't watch many modern films. They are all watered down to me. Occasionally a good documentary and shows get through but this era of films for the most part is the worst garbage and the fear of having to apologise for your art by not using the right...See More
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook Could you give an example of what you mean?
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Kyle Allen Willey
Kyle Allen Willey Say some guy has a line like "I don't care if you are a Tranny. Chop your dick off, do what you want. What do I care. It's your body." Or "My cousin's a tard but I love him." These lines are obviously bad by today's standards because you would say Tran...See More
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook I can see some of that - you make good points overall. I just am not sure we "need another" Taxi Driver or whatever. We have the film already. Why not make something new? And I am betting you can still find films with offensive terms in them. Mainly us...See More
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Kyle Allen Willey
Kyle Allen Willey This is all true, the one thing I would say is Taxi Driver I used to say you can't make a gritty film that's honest about society as easily anymore. Not that you need to make something just like it, we don't need that but a white guy dropping the N bom...See More
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook You could also say there might not be a modern "Do the Right Thing," which covered some of the same themes, but was made by a black man. I agree, though - it would be nice to see more of that, and I wonder if we're just not looking at the right places.
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Kyle Allen Willey
Kyle Allen Willey I wonder too and Do The Right Thing is a great film.
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook Agreed! I thought it dealt with a lot of stuff.
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Louis Joon
Louis Joon In fiction you can ascribe any non PC act you want, you can have insults to gay and black people, you can have women as idiots and victims of abuse.. We might have films where LGBT and POC and Women are strong heroes more than ever, but the opposite st...See More
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Kyle Allen Willey
Kyle Allen Willey I'm a comic fan and one of the few that like that Marvel is changing genders, and races of some of it's heroes. It's nice to see new takes but I don't feel that they have done it too much Justice in film.
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Max Calder
Max Calder Films are representative of the time they were made. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have cutting edge.
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson " Films are representative of the time they were made"

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Max Calder
Max Calder Mein Kamp was a political ideologist zeitgeist.
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Max Calder
Max Calder Thankfully, it won’t be written again.
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Jurgen Boel
Jurgen Boel You should have gone for `Der Hersscher` or `Jud Suss` as examples.
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Heather Kennedy
Heather Kennedy Ruminating on this. Great group, btw. Thank you to whoever started it!
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Matthew Busfield
Matthew Busfield I rarely go to the cinema now because its all watered down cookie cutter crap. I wanna see original films that push the boundaries of art, style, and taste. Otherwise whats the point.
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Asuka Lin
Asuka Lin like whats a film tht was cookie cutter crap to u
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Matthew Busfield
Matthew Busfield Jumanji remake, insidious sequel, maze runner sequel.....its hardly jodorowsky or kubrick is it??
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Asuka Lin
Asuka Lin ohhhh yeah totally. but like ur talking about the Hollywood industry — and honestly it’s always been like that.
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Vilhelm Schmidt
Vilhelm Schmidt I think you need to watch the Mist.
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Jonathan Shoesmith
Jonathan Shoesmith Maybe films in general aren't politically correct. Influencing people to sit down for hours on end eating popcorn and drinking fizzy drinks and ordering takeaways and shit. Maybe lifeforms themselves aren't politically correct and Mars' shitty desolate arse is far more PC than this wet blue ball full of demonic creatures shagging and eating each other
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Asuka Lin
Asuka Lin Why r the white ppl quoting blazing saddles suddenly??
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Max Calder
Max Calder Why are you asking?
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Nostalgia... sigh... you remember the GOOD OLD DAYS??

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Asuka Lin
Asuka Lin the GOOD OLD DAYS when ppl can get away with being racist or sexist and still win awards?? why r all these SNOWFLAKES complaining!
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Asuka Lin , I dont call them "snowflakes", elegant six sided shapes, each one beautifully unique, and , when melted, provide NOURISHING WATER.

I call them DANDRUFF.. just as flaky, but with no redeeming qualities :P
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Max Calder
Max Calder Asuka Lin - snowflakes (in capitals) is a bit defensive don’t you think?
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Joseph Keenan
Joseph Keenan I'd been going on since film started. In print it has been going on as long as written language.
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Jae Lynn Marino
Jae Lynn Marino It all depends on context.
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Chris Jarmick
Chris Jarmick Thread is very long with some very good on topic comments and some interesting asides and off topic ones too.
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Jonathan Shoesmith
Jonathan Shoesmith I like bread 🍞
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Chris Jarmick
Chris Jarmick One thing I thought was terrible was when there was a censorship of films and cartoons that had racist scenes in them. I think its a good thing to point this out... but to stop showing them? You can use them as teaching tools.... you ban or censor s...See More
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Joshua Augur Buckland
Joshua Augur Buckland I believe it was Whoopie Goldberg who recently said she wants to see Song of the South restored and shown in cinemas.
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Nat Cook
Nat Cook I agree with that - I probably wouldn't show them on TV, but for educational purposes, they should be available. Often that's the case with old comics - they present them as they were, but point out that times have changed, etc.
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Jonathan Shoesmith
Jonathan Shoesmith Stop analysing the frameworks of reality and just go to work, buy stuff, eat, drink, make little people and die like a good human being okay
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Chris Reich
Chris Reich The only purpose for political correctness in a land of free speech is ridicule.
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Max Calder
Max Calder Land of free speech 😂
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Max Calder
Max Calder Which universe are you in?
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Joe Whipple
Joe Whipple I agree with you 100%, Richard Pickering.
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John Michael Cook
John Michael Cook Well, Richard, these people are really kicking up dickens. I want you to go to your room, with no supper, and I want you to think about what you've done...
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Rick Lucey
Rick Lucey So true what you state!
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Andrew Laurence
Andrew Laurence These prudish schoolmarms who took Frankfurt school idiocy and fooled people into thinking that it equalled “social justice” are enemies of truth, beauty and all art.
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Scott Carlson
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Bob Stierle
Bob Stierle agreed. art by committee is insipid.
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Ann O'Malley
Ann O'Malley "political correctness," i.e. being sensitive to the rights of others, doesn't mean sanitizing films so that nothing bad is ever show on screen. it means not putting forth a misogynist or racist philosophy as the point of the film.
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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins PC is putting forth a form of dogmatic-feminist inversion of reality as normal. It shouldn’t be banned but it is what it is.
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Eric Jenkins YOU ARE SO RIGHT!

Egads, a worldview where "wimmen have rights"
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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins Stephen Wilkinson - Have you been playing in the litter-box again? 🙄🙄🙄
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Michael Rovin
Michael Rovin No, political correctness is an overreaction to bigotry. It vilifies and silences people who don’t express themselves perfectly. It assumes there are no more discussions to have on these topics. It’s fundamentalism, in a sense.
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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins Michael Rovin - It’s weaponized toxic-altruism directed at perceived heretical nonbelievers.
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Eric Jenkins and Michael Rovin : when did you two turn into penisless whiners?? GRAB YOUR BALLS MEN! ( or get some!)

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Samantha Verity
Samantha Verity Stephen is a troll and should be ignored people. Don’t feed the beast. 😐
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Eric Jenkins Stephen Wilkinson - Ok Steven, now listen to me, don’t panic. You’re merely having tiny allergic reaction to the non-bubble universe. It’s normal. Absolutely nothing to worry about. Now breathe, breathe, breathe....
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson Samantha "Pick me" Verity 😂😂😂
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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins Samantha Verity - Why,I’m surprised at you, young lady!!! If you were a good Christian, you’d feed them a delicious treat of Cod liver!!! My word!!! 😱😱😱
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Michael Rovin
Michael Rovin Stephen Wilkinson Ban any professors from speaking at college campuses, lately?

You need to pay more attention, and use the caps lock less (unless you have a reasonable point to make; in which case you wouldn't need it).
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Samantha Verity
Samantha Verity Stephen Wilkinson I’ve reported you to admin a few times Stephen for the way you speak to people. Very aggressive and confrontational and often out of the blue. I’m not sure why you’re still on here old chap. 😐
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Eric Jenkins
Eric Jenkins Samantha Verity - Cod liver and a pat on the head puts the troll to sleep. 😴😴😴
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Samantha Verity
Samantha Verity Eric Jenkins I fear not, the force is strong in this one. 😉
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Joe Rymer
Joe Rymer If you really feel that strongly about censorship perhaps the tone of this feed should more strongly reflect that conviction.Perhaps this could be a forum of not "Just," cinematic discovery,but the right to make whatever kind of discovery you want w/o arbitrary societal norms or governmental interference.
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Greg Kitt
Greg Kitt A few channels have gone as far as blurring a hand holding a cigarette. Seriously.
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Stephen Wilkinson
Stephen Wilkinson if the show is for children then blur it.

They are either smart enough to look past the blurring or dumb enough to see it as an endorsement.


Sure, it may hurt THAT SPECIFIC FILM where the cigarette in the left hand is central to the plot, but few are like that! :P
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Andrew Laurence
Andrew Laurence Take heart. There Will Always Be Troma Films.
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Chris West
Chris West Although I feel some troma films are politically correct a black grandma killing idiots for a racially motivated murder (surf nazis must die) how the physically misformed can find love (guess which) and how big business and nuclear power ends badly
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Andrew Laurence
Andrew Laurence Though I love the portrayal of SJWs in Poultrygeist
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone There's been discussions on how new films today, being politically and socially correct, as to not offend everyone, are being bland and boring as well.
With the 'I am offended" movement out there, it goes to show that this shift in social norms, is all
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MONEY and not social justice.
The media conglomerates want to capitalize on social justice, so that their new films make money and that old films wont, because they are 'offensive'. By getting people to jump on the 'I am offended' bandwagon, the lemmings and conformists they are, herded like cattle, will spend their money and consume the new films that are watered down to 'not offend anyone".
That is my theory.
Seriously, it's like when the 60's Revolution of Counter-Culture were trying to fight for environmental awareness, social justice, civil rights, women's rights, questioning authority figures, theorists say the movement went down as many of their goals went mainstream, like environmental awareness, as well as the proliferation of the groups into parenthood and responsibilities.. They've been given the crumbs instead of the whole cake, fooled into believing they changed the world- we have pollution, we have corruption, we have greedy conglomerate corporations whose greed outweighs their humanitarian empathy.
All this "social justice' in film is simply a tool to make money, its not about appropriate political correctness, but to monopolize the film industry by getting people to think all old school classic films are "Offensive" and thus everything will get a crappy watered-down remake that is bland and terrible.
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Clark Weichmann
Clark Weichmann Political correctness has no place in a democracy, but since the USA currently has a shaky one at best I suppose I no longer have a point. Art, including film, should be free and not held hostage by the thought police. IMHO.
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James P Lucarelli
James P Lucarelli Here is an older film that should be required viewing to understand "pc". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xhno9sBWI88Manage
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone Freedom of speech plays a role in creativity. A lot of classics are considered offensive by Millennials despite that they're not straightforward about the offending quibs. Millennials make a mountain out of a molehill on being offended by stuff that would go over moat people's heads decades ago. Millennials think James Bond is rapist, sexist, misogynist, as well as a slew of other films like Revenge of the Nerds, screwball comedies like Porkys, Joysticks, etc. I think people are missing the concept of freedom of speech and expression, and the millennials want a cookie cutter aesthetics to films that they can watch without being butthurt
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Samantha Verity
Samantha Verity Millennials = snowflakes. It was just added to the dictionary last week. 😀 so sad.
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Bonnie D'Heur
Bonnie D'Heur I think it would help to have a working definition of "politically correct" that a good percentage of people here can agree on before getting into it with each other or blaming the evil millennials (an ever nebulous term thrown out freely).

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y, I don't like censorship in films, but with this caveat:
If you're going to rely on vulgarity and hard subjects then do it right. Don't do it for the sake of gratuity and try to masquerade it as something revolutionary or substantial. And if you want to be gratuitous then be honest about your intentions.

It's a little strange to me that people think recent films are sanitized. I think perhaps they just aren't watching a large enough variety of films if that's the case.

And for those that hate those of us that would be considered millennials or dare to ask you about your opinions on "PC Culture" and "snowflakes," I would suggest considering a few things.

1. We often hear those that complain the most even if they're a small minority. You may assume people in my generation are against all sorts of things without realizing that you're not hearing the countless number of us who do NOT care about those things. Same as you.

2. If something is being challenged as inappropriate, look specifically at who is saying it and why. Often enough, there are groups comprised of women, people of color, people of a particular religion, etc. who NEVER were okay with what was being released. But they were not able to amplify their voices collectively loud enough for anyone to hear, were too afraid, or people simply were not listening. It's a different time we live in. More people will be heard.

3. You don't have to put people down to disagree with them. It's not hard to voice your opinions with grace and respect. It's how my elders taught me, yet I see so many older than me that seem to have not listened to THEIR elders. Be excellent to each other, folks. We learn more that way, and we're heard more that way.

4. There are idiots in every age group. I'd be rich if I had a dollar for every idiotic thing I heard Gen X and Baby Boomers say. But I don't think any of you are stupid just because you're in that age group. There are so many intelligent, thoughtful people on here and in life that I count as good friends, and it'd be a shame to dismiss them outright just because they're in the same age group as a small minority of loud, silly people.

5. It's not a bad thing to reflect upon your words if those words often hurt others. I had a friend who told me a joke, "Why don't you see any Wal-Marts in Iraq? Because there's a Target on every corner."
My Muslim friend from Iraq didn't feel so great about hearing that, and my other friend realized she'd been wrong to say it because it genuinely hurt another person. If you're saying something that hurts other people, people who are included in the butt of the joke, then maybe those suggesting you watch your speech aren't the ones in the wrong. Just consider it.

You can attack me, you can talk to me like a respectable adult, or you can ignore this. I choose the latter two, but I damn well sure am not going to act like a child and choose the first. We're all better than that. This is a good group. Attacking each other attacks the integrity of the group.
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone Millennial doesnt really refer to a generalizing sweeping term of everyone born after the turn of the Century, but refers to whiners who over-exaggerate things they hear, read, and see. I can understand how your Muslim friend is hurt by the joke, because people are terrorized and live in terrifying fear in those situations. But the point is that most films, like for example, James Bond, is criticized by the Millennial as a rapist, because, he is seducing women and bedding them. How is that rapist? Seriously. The American Freedom of Expression also means Sexual Expression as well. A Snowflake will say, "Oh, its creepy to hit on women". Thats not true at all. Its how you do it. There are either a good way or a bad way to do things. There is nothing wrong with 'hitting on women" or "picking up girls" thats Freedom of Expression. How the girls react is their preogative, and how the pickee react doesn't make the picker wrong unless of course the picker did something a bit too extreme or too inappropriate, but if acting like a respectable Gentleman and Lady, and ettiquitte is used, then picking up girl is respectable if done respectably. James Bond seduced his women and they complied to him and there is nothing wrong with it. Freedom of Expression and the Pursuit of Happiness is an American right and privelege and freedom. If a Man wishes to pursue libertine happiness with a woman and if she wishes to share in that happiness then it is respectable and not rape.
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Bonnie D'Heur
Bonnie D'Heur Millennials refers to people within a specific age group.
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Bonnie D'Heur
Bonnie D'Heur Also, James Bond is an amazing character, but he was not always a gentleman. He's referred to women and treated women in unsavory ways often enough.
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone well maybe a lot of people think that (Millennials apply to an age group) but to me it just applies to the overtly-sensitive whiners.
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone Gee, when a girl says "Ohhh Bond" I think he's doing it right
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Bonnie D'Heur
Bonnie D'Heur Wouldn't you agree that this might complicate the conversation, though? There is a universal definition for that word.

Also, this is not how you bed a woman. If she says no or resists at any point then you need to take a step back, stop, and leave her alone and/or and court her the right way. It doesn't matter that she "gives in" at the end of this scene. The psychology behind why this happens is well researched--I have a friend who did just that because she was afraid of being hurt further.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pUXH1Bye88
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone This is just a film. But he gets her to change her mind. If I for example, was afraid of the water, and a surfer was trying to get me to learn how to swim, then I wouldnt get over my fear of sharks and surf.. Now I understand this isn't the same metaphor, but this is just a movie. But as you may know, girls are pre-fabricated to have a 'defense' to defend their sexuality. That wall of defense is always there, no matter WHO is trying to break that wall down. So sometimes a man has to try more than once.
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David Alexander Cardamone
David Alexander Cardamone Given that there are a right and wrong way to do things, I dont see it as a real evil to have racism, bigotry, misogyny, sexism, etc in film, because, film is subjective for us to examine and see these things, and conjecture theories and constructive criticisms of the film. Just to say, "That was sexist, I was offended" doesnt necessarily cut the cake. To think, Oh, this is a gritty Italian Neorealist film and the character is sexist and rapist, that is how the world is, I feel bad for the character, this gives me a sober tone for the world I am viewing and conjecturing why this situation is happening (For example, the Strongman raping the Clown Girl in Fellini's La Strada). Now if a Snowflake saw Fellni's "La Strada" they would be highly offended by the rapist, sadist, sexist, misogynist scenes at how awful the Strongman treats the clown girl. But hey man, its supposed to be a sad clown story. So if films were to be cookie-cutter made for Snowflakes, we wouldnt get masterpieces like La Strada. La Strada, helps us feel empathy for the poor clown girl, and yet try to understand the Strongman, on what drives him to be brutal and mean to the clown girl, as he weeps when he discovers she died many years later after they break up.
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Andrew Laurence
Andrew Laurence The millenials didn’t do it. We can thank the Boomers for starting this nonsense and my generation (x) for taking poststructuralist idiocy and running with it as if it were fact (if they believed in facts, which they don’t, preferring nonsense words like “dialectic”) and indoctrinating Millennials completely. We can’t blame them for this, we made them.